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National Times

My School: narrowing the great divide

February 2, 2010

Opinion

The law of unintended consequences is a wonderful thing, as we've seen again the last week, with the launch of the federal government's My School website. In the weeks leading up to the launch you could've been forgiven for thinking it was all some horrific New Right plot to expose the failings of hundreds of underperforming state schools, staffed by lazy communists, timeserving hacks and angry 1960s throwbacks Who Hate Everything About Australia. Instead the hard questions are suddenly hovering like black thunderheads over the ivy-covered sandstone battlements of those super-privileged fee factories to which the upper classes (yeah, we got 'em) send their offspring as a birthright, and to which the struggling arriviste demographic struggle to send theirs in the hope that ... well, I'm not sure really. Perhaps they hope something might rub off.

How many of them would be wondering about the value for money they're getting now that they can directly compare results across a range of government and private schools?

I don't know if anybody recalls a really nifty little diversionary campaign that the Rodent once ran against public schools and public school teachers to distract attention from the unfortunate realisation by a majority of the electorate that he was a total rat bastard in need of a good kicking at the polls. It had something to do with public schools not inculcating decent values in our little Vegemiters. And yet the evidence of the data-miners who've been unleashed on My School since it went live, is that underfunded, under-resourced and hugely unappreciated public school teachers are doing a much better job with what little they have than their colleagues in the fee factories.

It makes you wonder, doesn't it, what sort of results the taxpayer might get from the public school system, if it were showered with some of the treasure currently spent on elite private schools. By this I don't mean those hundreds of middling, usually church-run campuses, many of which work hard at keeping their fees relatively low, so that someone other than a bunch of rich thickies might have a chance of a better resourced private education. No, I mean those schools which are nothing but bastions of inherited privilege and rank, and the 'values' of which often boil down to something little better than a postmodern form of social Darwinism.

Remind me again why some minimum-wage laborer is having a proportion of his taxes extorted from him by the customers of those institutions to pay for their heated swimming pool, or 22nd football oval, when his own kids are trapped in a rundown state school.

88 comments so far

  • The Rodent is a product of Sydney's public school system. Somehow I doubt the 'values' he was hoping to inculcate into public schools back then were originally instilled in him at Canterbury Boys High.

    Commenter
    Metatron
    Location
    the ether
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 6:36AM
  • In our household, this is crunch year. Our son is in year 3 at a catholic primary school in the ACT. The elite rugby-centric schools take the boys from year 4, so the Myschool website has helped allay any fears that leaving him where he is for the rest of primary school will put him at an academic disadvantage.

    Wifey's angle of attack has since shifted: "What about the social aspects?" Yes what about them indeed. If he can stay in a co-ed school all the way through maybe our sensitive little fella can avoid getting his confidence belted out of him at a young age and his head repeatedly flushed down the toilet.

    I speak from experience.

    Anyway, if I was to make improvements to Myschool, the first would be to include standard deviations with the data, 'cos I really don't know whether a difference of 20 points between schools is meaningful. Yes, the differences from the mean are colour coded, but does anyone know whether these are based on 0.5, 1 or 2 standard deviations? I couldn't find anything but I didn't look terribly hard.

    Commenter
    Abe
    Location
    Qbn
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 6:31AM
  • I'm not very good at sums as you well know. I have trouble counting to ten. So the SD stuff I'll leave the wonks.
    Your wife has a point about the social aspect, but possibly not in the way she imagines. Having looked through the prospectusesesesess (prospectii?) of a few of brisbane's finer school fee factories for comparison purposes, I was struck by just how odious a vibe most of them gave off. A really nasty elitist vibe. Not the sort of of thing I'd want any kid of mine picking up.

    Commenter
    JB
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 9:14AM
  • I'm struggling to see any negatives from it looking at the whole from outside the school fence.

    The sis in law is a D-principle and she was saying it's good if you're out performing your private school competition - like they are - but it's shit house if you're on the receiving end of the negativity. Which makes sense.

    Like ya say, how does it make sense fee factories get all the funding when public can't afford anything?

    Commenter
    Moko
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 7:34AM
  • Well if this one doesnt crack 100 comments I dont know what will. Having been a grateful recipient of a public education, albeit at a certain agricultural school in Sydney (that's since become way too selective for lazy white kids like me to get into) the one thing I noticed about University was how few public school kids were at law school. And aside from a few exceptions - they werent really all that bright.

    Which made me think that there's something else at play beyond native intelligence that secures success in education. There's undoubtedly a certain benefit that you get from a resource rich environment, not to mention mixing with kiddies whose parents have a certain intimacy with money, education and influence. If youve got well resourced teachers focussing on getting kids into university and a wonderland of facilities, its going to rub off on university access, etc.

    A mate of mine introduced me to his a girlfriend, a struggling musician who was engaged full time as "composer in residence" (i sh*t you not) at an elite Sydney private school. She now has at her disposal the kind of recording studio that would make Phil Spector blush, where well fed kiddies from Sydney's more glamourous suburbs can make terrible rap music - pretending to be black in some curious exercise in "downwards envy".

    Thats where your tax dolars are going folks. I thought conservatives cared about wasting public money? Curious how if you point these bizarre excesses out you get accused of class envy.

    Im all for the rich enjoying the fruits of their success - just not on my time thank you. Thats our education legacy from John Howard, which our current PM will , true to form, be too gutless to do anything about.

    Commenter
    mint slice
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 7:34AM
  • Simple JB.. The parents of the kids using that 22nd footy field pay just as much, if not more tax than the labourer. So as they are contributing to the pie, why shouldn't their taxes be spent on their kids?

    Can you tell me my my taxes are being 'extorted' from my pay to pay for the education of kids from drug and boozed out parents that make no effort whatsoever to educate/raise their own children, leaving the job to state teachers, like Ms TJ, who for example is daily told in class to go fu*k herself by kids whom she is prevented from disciplining by our education department?

    How do you teach the child of a parent who themselves tells you to fu8k off when they are called by the school to have explained what a problem their child has become?

    Tax and funding doesn't maketh the school. Parental interest and proper parenting does. I am sure you could look through the My school web site and find plenty of examples of public schools doing great. Ask them why they are doing well and i am sure the answer wont be money.

    It will be that they have committed teachers and engaged parents.

    Commenter
    darryltj
    Location
    back in the Ivory Tower...
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 7:21AM
  • Why should you fund the public schools? Because it's a state responsibility. Like defence, customs, enforcing contracts ad so on.
    But sending your child to a private school is, by definition, a private choice. Bear the cost yourself big guy. And I say that as someone who would have to for his own kids

    Commenter
    JB
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 9:19AM
  • But where will our future Wallabies come from if St.Wankery College in Sydney doesn't get the gummint funding to build their 22nd footy oval?

    A nifty little experiment would be to swap the teachers from the top rating school with the teachers from the lowest rating school for a year, and see what transpires. Suddenly faced with having to drum a little Shakespeare into the heads of Mt Druitt's youngsters while standing in an overcrowded, stifling classroom, instead of having walkies with Lord Fauntleroy while strolling through the leafy confines of The Kings' School's nature reserve, one's passion for teaching would likely go AWOL.

    Commenter
    Big Willie Style
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 7:04AM
  • @Big Willie Style...now that would be worth producing a TV show about.

    Commenter
    SpyNat
    Location
    Pinko Theme Park
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 8:13AM
  • Oh and cheers for your services to vocabulary this morning....inculcating and arriviste...yummy.

    Commenter
    SpyNat
    Location
    Pinko Theme Park
    Date and time
    February 02, 2010, 8:01AM

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